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	<title>Comments on: Annuities To Reverse Mortgage Borrowers Out Under FHA Reform</title>
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		<title>By: Peter G. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.bestreversemortgage.com/reverse-mortgage/annuities-to-seniors-out-under-house-fha-measure/#comment-11569</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes -- and the fees and charges are how much? And the prepayment penalty is how big?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8212; and the fees and charges are how much? And the prepayment penalty is how big?</p>
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		<title>By: Trevon Kanavy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevon Kanavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An annuity is the only prodect that provides income to a senior for as long as he or she shall live, reqardless of home ownership, equity, or condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An annuity is the only prodect that provides income to a senior for as long as he or she shall live, reqardless of home ownership, equity, or condition.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.bestreversemortgage.com/reverse-mortgage/annuities-to-seniors-out-under-house-fha-measure/#comment-8767</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill --

Thanks for your note.

You make a good point, I suspect the trouble is in how to draw that bright line between what is allowed and what is not. 

One of the by-products of abuse is over-reaaction. That's not fair to the people who act honorably, but it seems like a common result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for your note.</p>
<p>You make a good point, I suspect the trouble is in how to draw that bright line between what is allowed and what is not. </p>
<p>One of the by-products of abuse is over-reaaction. That&#8217;s not fair to the people who act honorably, but it seems like a common result.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Peter, they didn't get this one right.

I'm very much opposed to the guys who sell deferred annuities with reverse mortgage proceeeds, but the broadly prohibitive language in the bill does not distinguish between deferred annuities, immediate annuities which can rarely but occasionally provide higher incomes than the reverse mortgage payments, life insurance to protect a spouse, estate, or increase a legacy, and even long-term care insurance. It could also prohibit a good insurance agent from using a medicare Advantage plan to save the borrowers hundrdeds of dollars each month versus a Medicare Supplement health plan. Most securities broker-dealers already prohibit using home equity to fund market-based investments. 

I mention long-term care because the same legislation resurrects and implements the Clinton-era law stating that FHA mortgage insurance premiums will be refunded to those that use reverse miortgage premiums to purchase long-term care insurance.

We can stop the "get a reverse mortgage so you can buy this annuity" guys with much narrower language. The current language just imagines that professionals all operate in distinctly regulated "silos" - they don't, and customers benefit from pros with multiple licenses who can talk about the pros and cons of a broader range of ideas and products. These are the guys who are in business to first find out what the client wants to do, and then figure out the best way to do it. The norm, and the regulatory assumptions, in the financial industry is the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Peter, they didn&#8217;t get this one right.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very much opposed to the guys who sell deferred annuities with reverse mortgage proceeeds, but the broadly prohibitive language in the bill does not distinguish between deferred annuities, immediate annuities which can rarely but occasionally provide higher incomes than the reverse mortgage payments, life insurance to protect a spouse, estate, or increase a legacy, and even long-term care insurance. It could also prohibit a good insurance agent from using a medicare Advantage plan to save the borrowers hundrdeds of dollars each month versus a Medicare Supplement health plan. Most securities broker-dealers already prohibit using home equity to fund market-based investments. </p>
<p>I mention long-term care because the same legislation resurrects and implements the Clinton-era law stating that FHA mortgage insurance premiums will be refunded to those that use reverse miortgage premiums to purchase long-term care insurance.</p>
<p>We can stop the &#8220;get a reverse mortgage so you can buy this annuity&#8221; guys with much narrower language. The current language just imagines that professionals all operate in distinctly regulated &#8220;silos&#8221; - they don&#8217;t, and customers benefit from pros with multiple licenses who can talk about the pros and cons of a broader range of ideas and products. These are the guys who are in business to first find out what the client wants to do, and then figure out the best way to do it. The norm, and the regulatory assumptions, in the financial industry is the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.bestreversemortgage.com/reverse-mortgage/annuities-to-seniors-out-under-house-fha-measure/#comment-8692</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;who would you rather go to for a reverse mortgage…the mortgage broker who can no longer sell in the sub-prime space and came to the RM side for a paycheck, or the financial advisor that you have known and trusted for years?

If they are asking me to fund an annuity with the proceeds from a reverse mortgage or trying to sell a subprime loan I would not want either of them.

Happily, there are more and better choices out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>>who would you rather go to for a reverse mortgage…the mortgage broker who can no longer sell in the sub-prime space and came to the RM side for a paycheck, or the financial advisor that you have known and trusted for years?</p>
<p>If they are asking me to fund an annuity with the proceeds from a reverse mortgage or trying to sell a subprime loan I would not want either of them.</p>
<p>Happily, there are more and better choices out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G. Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter G. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John --

Thanks for your note.

The last version of the bill, as posted by THOMAS, is H.R.3221.EAS2, the "Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (the "Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate." This is what is on the public record.

Is there a later version of the legislation?

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for your note.</p>
<p>The last version of the bill, as posted by THOMAS, is H.R.3221.EAS2, the &#8220;Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (the &#8220;Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate.&#8221; This is what is on the public record.</p>
<p>Is there a later version of the legislation?</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: ReverseMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReverseMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our lawmakers are the master of "the law of unintended consequences". The language of this bill if accurate would force out all insurance licensed professionals from the reverse mortgage industry regardless if their insurance activities are completely separate.

Those with previous and current professional licenses from the financial services industry actually bring valuable knowledge to the reverse space in retirement planning, financial fact-finding and many other areas.

It looks like yet another case of throwing out the baby with the bath water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our lawmakers are the master of &#8220;the law of unintended consequences&#8221;. The language of this bill if accurate would force out all insurance licensed professionals from the reverse mortgage industry regardless if their insurance activities are completely separate.</p>
<p>Those with previous and current professional licenses from the financial services industry actually bring valuable knowledge to the reverse space in retirement planning, financial fact-finding and many other areas.</p>
<p>It looks like yet another case of throwing out the baby with the bath water.</p>
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		<title>By: John Yedinak</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Yedinak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

I was under the impression this was removed from the Bill? When you check out the text it has been crossed out... let me know if I am missing something.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>I was under the impression this was removed from the Bill? When you check out the text it has been crossed out&#8230; let me know if I am missing something.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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